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it was basically a cube with inside of

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so this isn't anything that just is

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limited to the united states it's a

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hi everyone and welcome back to that ufo

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podcast it's your breakdown and probably

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the last one for the end of march short

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on any massive breaking news happening

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i've got dan joining me for this one dan

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welcome back

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hi uh good to be back

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as always as always yeah we've been busy

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the last few days it's been nice after

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it's felt like kind of six or seven

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weeks of kind of all over the place but

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i feel like i'm properly back in the

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groove now from early february and uh

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i've actually lined up five guests now

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coming up which i've not done for quite

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a while so i'm well ahead of the game

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folks heads are back in it hopefully you

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terms of quality or anything dropping or

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anything and normally but at least two a

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little late on the one before so yeah a

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little strange with the sketch schedules

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but you know it's nice to be back in the

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swing of things like you say absolutely

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we'll keep on top of it listen plenty to

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discuss in this breakdown as well the

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first one was about a breaking news

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wasn't it a couple of days ago john

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greenwald of the blackvault.com

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managed to get hold of the classified

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uap task force report that

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shapes and like less common shapes or

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congress all that kind of stuff

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you're american you don't want all that

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coming out because this is what

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subject and the mystery that

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we're at a point now where we're

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the government's ufo report for all

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intents and purposes and we're seeing

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the classified government's ufo report

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and those black boxes stand between

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potentially some incredible information

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tenacious and and going after these

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things it's taken a lot of work it

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long may continue to do his thing but

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look into doing this as well because you

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don't know that you you get something

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and here's a spoiler the jazz show

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interview i really enjoyed jazz was on

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on really good form and was very very

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knowledgeable on the subject

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and he was talking about the foyer

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process because this came up and he

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mentioned how

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as much as i've seen people going back

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and forward with with this document and

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others with john and he mentions that

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well no there wouldn't be extra pages

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because they would have given me those

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extra pages with the length of the

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document jazz shaw told me how he once

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fired for a document he was literally

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holding in his hand

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and he had a response back from the

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foyer process to say the document didn't

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exist

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he had the document he then sent them

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the reply he sent them back the document

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and heard nothing else

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so that's where we're at so i appreciate

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the work and

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john greenwald and others will

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infinitely and always know more about

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the foyer process than i do and that's

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fine that's not something i necessarily

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want to know much more about i'm happy

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just receiving the information and

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dissecting it but

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to say that there isn't a longer report

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potentially because well this is what

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they sent me so this is what they have

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i'm sorry i

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jazz show himself has said they

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literally told him they didn't have a

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document that he had in his hands we

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spoke we touched on this a similar thing

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during the ama we were talking about uh

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secret platforms being over ukraine and

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and i think it was graeme rendell kind

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of said you know and we were like well

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there's kind of wiggle room and what the

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government tells you um you know i

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totally respect that

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they have a much more informed opinion

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than my conjecture but there's always

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that little bit of wiggle room that we

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always find out in hindsight was well

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not always find out but sometimes find

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out in hindsight that it's justified

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yeah there's of course those processes

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and protocols and

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you don't think though let's let's just

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take something very blank like roswell

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for example that at the time someone

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went yeah but we've got a process for

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this and someone hired up went to hell

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with the process like you know we're

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going to do this i don't care if it

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means x y and z this is what we're going

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to do so

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yeah

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can i just pull something forward a

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little bit in the show just because

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we're talking about this now um yeah

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yeah for your process should should be

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you know looked at by other people and

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uh

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there was

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i think it's a jack brewer he he got

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this week a bunch of bass and awesome

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papers we'll touch on the dudes later

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but i just wanted to touch on the the

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osap documents being released

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it's been so long since we've heard

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about the osap stuff we've heard a lot

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from lakatsuki from

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um

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and still we're getting new stuff that

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they told us didn't exist and one of the

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most startling lines in it for me is

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that they they can now show with

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paperwork the osap wasn't funded by the

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dia it was funded by the nsa so that's

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black budget money right there and

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they're not playing they're going to be

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holding those cards as close to their

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chest as possible and if they want to

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tell you it's 17 pages and look at you

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po-faced and you know pretend that

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there's nothing else they will do that

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if it serves them

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percent and the last thing for me on the

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the classified report that's heavily

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redacted was the the conversations over

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the length of the report was it 17 pages

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was it in its 20s or as people like

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louis lozando said at the time

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it was it was over 70 pages and other

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people confirmed that too and what we

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got was obviously the much shorter

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version of the report john greenwald's

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argument as well here's the report here

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and it's certainly not 70 pages but

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others would say and argue that there

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would likely be information on tables

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graphs you know potentially pages of

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photographs

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there could be all sorts of other

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information indexes appendixes that we

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just don't have access to that they've

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held back i know some people again may

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say well they wouldn't do that but i

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think you have to just take that on it's

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on its merit we have what we have

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personally i think there was more to

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this report and we just don't see it

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yeah i i would be inclined to agree with

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you there moving on louis lozando was on

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linda moulton howe which is two people i

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didn't think we would probably see

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together in an interview format um

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it was surprisingly pretty good and

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that's that's not a slight one either i

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just thought it was oil and water in

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terms of

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the interviews and not to go back over

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old grounds you know what happened a few

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weeks ago on the theories of everything

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interview and the arguments that ensued

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since but um i thought lou was really

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calm collected and he gave some good

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answers i thought linda made some really

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valid points and questions and i think

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there was a middle ground as well where

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things went a little bit all over the

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place um

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i would recommend folks i'm going to say

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this a few times on this this pod that

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if we are talking about someone else's

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content please go and watch it or listen

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to it yourself don't take what we see as

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oh well that's what they think and

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that's their opinion so it must be

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correct and we only see what we see in

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something as well yeah you know we your

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kid runs past the door and you miss two

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seconds of audio and it could be

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something important so you know go go

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listen and maybe you'll pick something

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up that we didn't and we also hear

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things in the same interviews don't we

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done but i'll say i took this from it

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and you'll see um i thought this yeah we

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don't know it could be either and that's

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where you know someone has to follow up

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and so for me the notes i've got on it

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just as a few a few kind of standouts

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was um

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straight away

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linda milton how asked the question

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about you know are we dealing with

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something that's not homo sapien good

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use of language not seeing human alien

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non-human intelligence you know because

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as it's something that's homo

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something else to this planet who knows

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or um is a homo sapien sapiens a correct

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term i believe isn't it um it keeps

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changing we keep finding all the ones

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with the same kind of brains that we

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haven't realizing that our development

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was very different to what the

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mainstream science tells us 100 lu and

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and with the question and something i'll

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preface with it and dan i don't think

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you've managed to catch the whole

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interview yet or have you got all of it

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no i mean i've been knee-deep in the

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dudes which way yeah

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um

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linda's questions are extremely lengthy

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um and one question can sort of contain

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four or five different questions within

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it so you can clearly see during the

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interview quite candidly taking notes

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because

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at times i i forgot linda's question by

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the end of the question something i'm

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always wary of myself when i'm when i'm

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interviewing a guest is try and break it

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down

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but linda can cover some pretty

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scientific topics but also pretty

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fantastical topics all in the one

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question

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which i don't know if lou was

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necessarily evading some of the

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questions she asked but she asked so

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much at one time it was much easier for

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for any guest to just answer what they

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wanted to out of it um so on on that

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question lou discussed available data

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points and then talked about

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technological arcs in terms of you know

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when you look at you would expect to see

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a technology progress at you know a rate

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of you know we had the the telephone and

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then we had like the big mobile phones

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then we had smaller phones then we have

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like touch phones like we have now and

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that technology has made sense as it's

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gone along we didn't have alexander

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graham bell one day with uh you know a

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phone dr watson come here i want you i

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believe is the first the first phrase

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and dr watson comes in and there you go

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the first telephone call was made

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and then

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i get ahoy or or hello wasn't it was the

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two options and they voted for hello

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that's where the word came from facts

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folks facts

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and uh

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we didn't have though the following week

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some to say yeah you've got that but

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here's an iphone 13 pro max

509
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that's what we're kind of looking at in

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lowe's point is in terms of this

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technology we have you know these

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fighter jets that can do x y and z but

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on the other hand we then have something

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that seems to totally leapfrog

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everything else and in this roundabout

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way he he answered the question of well

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no it's it's not homo sapien sapien it's

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it's clearly something else some a point

519
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is made on other um other shows but i

520
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like the way linda faced a question

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yeah and and it kind of gives you again

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that definitive confirmation that we're

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talking about something other right when

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it comes to what we're talking about

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with lou like it it's not mankind or

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mankind's now we know it's the other one

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yeah um a lot of folks um were picking

528
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up about linda's point which is made

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about

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ufos

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stopping nuclear war on nuclear launches

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and you know they're there to protect us

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they've got our best interests at heart

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and lou made the point back to her what

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she had to say you know and fair play to

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00:18:18,549 --> 00:18:15,840
hershey's argument she just said that's

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a fair point that they don't stop all

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the testing that's going on today last

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week the week before months before that

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they didn't stop hiroshima nagasaki

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i've made the point you know we've had

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recently the fukushima disaster with the

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nuclear plant you know going back

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00:18:36,789 --> 00:18:33,679
further than that chernobyl you know

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these objects didn't stop those

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they didn't help with those

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they don't stop testing in the

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atmosphere testing underground testing

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underwater which damages the planet

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which kills countless animals and

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poisons the areas

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00:18:50,470 --> 00:18:49,360
and obviously there's a fallout from

553
00:18:52,950 --> 00:18:50,480
that as well

554
00:18:55,110 --> 00:18:52,960
so why would they stop a nuclear launch

555
00:18:56,789 --> 00:18:55,120
that was going a country now

556
00:18:59,350 --> 00:18:56,799
and linda milton how to her credit like

557
00:19:00,470 --> 00:18:59,360
i said does say yep fair enough it's a

558
00:19:03,430 --> 00:19:00,480
fair point

559
00:19:06,950 --> 00:19:03,440
she does within that start to talk about

560
00:19:09,430 --> 00:19:07,750
some

561
00:19:10,630 --> 00:19:09,440
nuclear events and bases and i would

562
00:19:12,789 --> 00:19:10,640
have liked to have heard of dig into

563
00:19:14,150 --> 00:19:12,799
those with lou maybe in detail but again

564
00:19:16,470 --> 00:19:14,160
it was just in framing the wider

565
00:19:19,029 --> 00:19:16,480
question but they were quite substantial

566
00:19:22,710 --> 00:19:19,039
and lengthy um lou is also asked by

567
00:19:24,710 --> 00:19:22,720
linda if he's seen a ufo lew says yes

568
00:19:26,310 --> 00:19:24,720
previously it's a question he'd avoided

569
00:19:28,390 --> 00:19:26,320
where i think most people assumed the

570
00:19:29,669 --> 00:19:28,400
answer was yes um

571
00:19:31,590 --> 00:19:29,679
i think there's something he always

572
00:19:33,110 --> 00:19:31,600
avoided saying no didn't he you'd always

573
00:19:34,710 --> 00:19:33,120
say i don't want to share because share

574
00:19:36,710 --> 00:19:34,720
my experience will become the focus of

575
00:19:38,230 --> 00:19:36,720
it and that's not what this is about was

576
00:19:39,110 --> 00:19:38,240
at the end of unidentified season two

577
00:19:41,590 --> 00:19:39,120
but he

578
00:19:42,950 --> 00:19:41,600
stands up and it's dramatic and he gets

579
00:19:44,870 --> 00:19:42,960
asked about his own experience and

580
00:19:46,789 --> 00:19:44,880
there's just no answer and it's there

581
00:19:48,390 --> 00:19:46,799
was a bit of drama to it but again that

582
00:19:50,390 --> 00:19:48,400
was one of the early times lewis posed

583
00:19:51,990 --> 00:19:50,400
that question that that is the end of

584
00:19:53,830 --> 00:19:52,000
episode eight of season two of

585
00:19:55,029 --> 00:19:53,840
unidentified if someone wants to go find

586
00:19:55,990 --> 00:19:55,039
it on youtube i just wanted to see where

587
00:19:57,830 --> 00:19:56,000
it was

588
00:19:59,909 --> 00:19:57,840
and just before just after the chris

589
00:20:01,750 --> 00:19:59,919
mellen monologue about just after it's

590
00:20:03,029 --> 00:20:01,760
like the same segment it's a fantastic

591
00:20:05,270 --> 00:20:03,039
monologue in fact i'll post it to

592
00:20:07,110 --> 00:20:05,280
twitter again later so yeah yeah i know

593
00:20:08,789 --> 00:20:07,120
you had the video anyway um so we're

594
00:20:10,950 --> 00:20:08,799
assuming low means he's seen it in

595
00:20:12,630 --> 00:20:10,960
person and it's not a video or via other

596
00:20:14,630 --> 00:20:12,640
means lew's obviously had access to

597
00:20:17,270 --> 00:20:14,640
sensitive data and the role he had

598
00:20:19,190 --> 00:20:17,280
within atip so it's very much i think

599
00:20:20,950 --> 00:20:19,200
safe to say yeah lewis saw something at

600
00:20:23,430 --> 00:20:20,960
least once in person

601
00:20:24,789 --> 00:20:23,440
i've got a question dan for you

602
00:20:28,149 --> 00:20:24,799
is there more

603
00:20:29,990 --> 00:20:28,159
for lou to lose or gain

604
00:20:31,510 --> 00:20:30,000
if he went into more detail if we get to

605
00:20:34,390 --> 00:20:31,520
speak to lou which we're hoping to in

606
00:20:36,390 --> 00:20:34,400
four weeks and i say to lu lu um and

607
00:20:37,830 --> 00:20:36,400
people will ask me to do this but

608
00:20:39,270 --> 00:20:37,840
let's just talk about this out loud just

609
00:20:40,470 --> 00:20:39,280
knowing this is the process dan and i go

610
00:20:43,029 --> 00:20:40,480
through with some of these interviews we

611
00:20:45,110 --> 00:20:43,039
talk about i say dan okay um i'm gonna

612
00:20:47,190 --> 00:20:45,120
ask lou you told lin to molten how yes

613
00:20:49,110 --> 00:20:47,200
you've seen a ufo can you expand on that

614
00:20:51,029 --> 00:20:49,120
and tell me more about the experience

615
00:20:53,990 --> 00:20:51,039
and let's just say lugo is do you know

616
00:20:57,029 --> 00:20:54,000
what why not and he gives us a full i

617
00:21:00,870 --> 00:20:57,039
saw something when i was in this place

618
00:21:02,789 --> 00:21:00,880
at this time it was a triangular object

619
00:21:06,710 --> 00:21:02,799
flying about doing this there were

620
00:21:10,070 --> 00:21:08,710
what what happens after that point i

621
00:21:12,950 --> 00:21:10,080
i've got to go further with your

622
00:21:14,789 --> 00:21:12,960
explanation there just because

623
00:21:17,110 --> 00:21:14,799
there's been discussion about lou and

624
00:21:19,510 --> 00:21:17,120
hitchhiker effects and and things that

625
00:21:22,230 --> 00:21:19,520
have been experienced and i i think the

626
00:21:23,909 --> 00:21:22,240
the full answer to what your his

627
00:21:26,549 --> 00:21:23,919
experience was is going to be a lot

628
00:21:28,710 --> 00:21:26,559
stranger than a mainstream conversation

629
00:21:30,149 --> 00:21:28,720
is comfortable with on times along 2.5

630
00:21:31,669 --> 00:21:30,159
we talked about you know what a flu came

631
00:21:33,830 --> 00:21:31,679
out and said oh yeah there are these

632
00:21:35,110 --> 00:21:33,840
invisible beings that feed off you feed

633
00:21:36,710 --> 00:21:35,120
off your negative energy when you're

634
00:21:38,549 --> 00:21:36,720
angry and things like that where would

635
00:21:40,310 --> 00:21:38,559
you go with that i think it just stands

636
00:21:42,390 --> 00:21:40,320
to distract and i i totally understand

637
00:21:43,909 --> 00:21:42,400
why he's like you know what i'm one data

638
00:21:46,149 --> 00:21:43,919
source there are better polls of

639
00:21:48,149 --> 00:21:46,159
information for us to be talking about

640
00:21:50,549 --> 00:21:48,159
yeah and that's what i go with it that

641
00:21:52,070 --> 00:21:50,559
how much more is he going to say without

642
00:21:53,350 --> 00:21:52,080
just you know i don't want to go into it

643
00:21:55,990 --> 00:21:53,360
right now because again i think it

644
00:21:58,549 --> 00:21:56,000
changes that conversation and i believe

645
00:22:00,470 --> 00:21:58,559
as we start to approach the next wave of

646
00:22:02,149 --> 00:22:00,480
mainstream media you know people getting

647
00:22:03,909 --> 00:22:02,159
on top of this low being interviewed on

648
00:22:06,310 --> 00:22:03,919
different platforms hopefully elsewhere

649
00:22:08,149 --> 00:22:06,320
australia the uk canada everywhere else

650
00:22:10,149 --> 00:22:08,159
in the world

651
00:22:11,830 --> 00:22:10,159
the conversation would probably hit

652
00:22:13,350 --> 00:22:11,840
straight away with you know so you saw

653
00:22:15,510 --> 00:22:13,360
ufos

654
00:22:16,870 --> 00:22:15,520
you've seen aliens tell me about it and

655
00:22:18,950 --> 00:22:16,880
it's just always having to have that

656
00:22:20,630 --> 00:22:18,960
reset and go back so for me i don't see

657
00:22:22,710 --> 00:22:20,640
us getting too much more there's maybe

658
00:22:24,789 --> 00:22:22,720
something to dig in with there for for

659
00:22:26,149 --> 00:22:24,799
some point but i i don't think we're

660
00:22:27,990 --> 00:22:26,159
going to get much more in terms of an

661
00:22:30,630 --> 00:22:28,000
answer on that the the interesting thing

662
00:22:32,630 --> 00:22:30,640
for me in that answer would be

663
00:22:34,470 --> 00:22:32,640
the implications from it as opposed to

664
00:22:35,350 --> 00:22:34,480
lose experience as interested as that

665
00:22:37,270 --> 00:22:35,360
would be

666
00:22:38,950 --> 00:22:37,280
it suggests that maybe he saw one

667
00:22:40,789 --> 00:22:38,960
through his work which suggests that

668
00:22:42,950 --> 00:22:40,799
maybe he knew where to see one which

669
00:22:44,549 --> 00:22:42,960
suggests that maybe there exists actual

670
00:22:45,909 --> 00:22:44,559
hot spots people could go to and they're

671
00:22:47,909 --> 00:22:45,919
more likely you know it kind of it

672
00:22:50,390 --> 00:22:47,919
starts going down that rabbit hole and

673
00:22:51,830 --> 00:22:50,400
it's a whole can of worms to open

674
00:22:53,990 --> 00:22:51,840
absolutely there are definitely

675
00:22:55,909 --> 00:22:54,000
follow-ups from it but we'll hear those

676
00:22:58,390 --> 00:22:55,919
at the time when we speak to lou and

677
00:23:00,230 --> 00:22:58,400
last thing for me um linda also made

678
00:23:02,549 --> 00:23:00,240
some out there statements again it

679
00:23:04,630 --> 00:23:02,559
wasn't it was encased within a huge

680
00:23:07,190 --> 00:23:04,640
question and i do mean the questions go

681
00:23:09,190 --> 00:23:07,200
on for some time where she made a

682
00:23:11,190 --> 00:23:09,200
statement about you know she's spoken to

683
00:23:13,750 --> 00:23:11,200
people who have assured her and sources

684
00:23:15,830 --> 00:23:13,760
confirm that there are at least 380

685
00:23:18,470 --> 00:23:15,840
civilizations on this planet they've

686
00:23:20,549 --> 00:23:18,480
been here for at least 270 million years

687
00:23:21,990 --> 00:23:20,559
and the government knows this

688
00:23:23,669 --> 00:23:22,000
i would have loved to have heard lou's

689
00:23:25,430 --> 00:23:23,679
response to that

690
00:23:28,149 --> 00:23:25,440
but linda's question

691
00:23:29,590 --> 00:23:28,159
it is quite lengthy and it ends up going

692
00:23:32,149 --> 00:23:29,600
past that and the point of the question

693
00:23:33,750 --> 00:23:32,159
is missed um but like i say lew's kind

694
00:23:35,430 --> 00:23:33,760
of making the notes and

695
00:23:36,470 --> 00:23:35,440
i would encourage people to go and watch

696
00:23:39,270 --> 00:23:36,480
the interview

697
00:23:42,390 --> 00:23:39,280
it's very mature from both parties it's

698
00:23:43,990 --> 00:23:42,400
very well handled um linda just hit 200

699
00:23:45,909 --> 00:23:44,000
000 subscribers you know there's a

700
00:23:49,110 --> 00:23:45,919
little party piece at the start which is

701
00:23:50,390 --> 00:23:49,120
interesting about that um but i think

702
00:23:52,950 --> 00:23:50,400
it's a good discussion

703
00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:52,960
um really really pleasantly surprised by

704
00:23:55,990 --> 00:23:54,480
it and i would encourage folks to go and

705
00:23:58,230 --> 00:23:56,000
watch it including you dan when you get

706
00:24:01,190 --> 00:23:58,240
a chance to get back and go right

707
00:24:02,310 --> 00:24:01,200
queued up i can see the tab right now

708
00:24:04,470 --> 00:24:02,320
and um

709
00:24:05,590 --> 00:24:04,480
very quickly sean cahill was on jimmy

710
00:24:08,230 --> 00:24:05,600
church that's one that i've been

711
00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:08,240
watching myself as well again

712
00:24:12,950 --> 00:24:10,960
yeah everyone knows um a very relaxed

713
00:24:14,549 --> 00:24:12,960
conversation sean and jeremy going back

714
00:24:17,110 --> 00:24:14,559
and forward we've always said sean

715
00:24:19,029 --> 00:24:17,120
speaks incredibly well um a couple of

716
00:24:20,630 --> 00:24:19,039
things that stood out for me again folks

717
00:24:22,149 --> 00:24:20,640
always like to preface other content

718
00:24:24,070 --> 00:24:22,159
creators please go and check out

719
00:24:25,990 --> 00:24:24,080
yourself on search fade to black on

720
00:24:28,470 --> 00:24:26,000
youtube and you'll see it's one of the

721
00:24:29,990 --> 00:24:28,480
most recent from from jimmy church um

722
00:24:33,350 --> 00:24:30,000
sean talks about searching through his

723
00:24:35,990 --> 00:24:33,360
own mind and how in the past he's had to

724
00:24:38,230 --> 00:24:36,000
to take time to meditate you know

725
00:24:39,510 --> 00:24:38,240
chill relax and go back through and

726
00:24:41,669 --> 00:24:39,520
think you know what now i'm heavily

727
00:24:44,710 --> 00:24:41,679
involved in this subject where things in

728
00:24:47,029 --> 00:24:44,720
my past potentially uap ufo related

729
00:24:48,789 --> 00:24:47,039
where the events of high strangeness or

730
00:24:50,710 --> 00:24:48,799
as he said very frankly is it something

731
00:24:52,710 --> 00:24:50,720
that could be akin or put down to some

732
00:24:53,590 --> 00:24:52,720
form of mental illness or mental health

733
00:24:56,630 --> 00:24:53,600
issue

734
00:24:57,990 --> 00:24:56,640
and that's fantastic to hear because

735
00:24:59,669 --> 00:24:58,000
i think we don't hear that enough that

736
00:25:00,950 --> 00:24:59,679
there are those instances where is that

737
00:25:02,710 --> 00:25:00,960
something that's happened or has it been

738
00:25:04,710 --> 00:25:02,720
a dramatic moment in someone's life

739
00:25:06,710 --> 00:25:04,720
where this is manifested or

740
00:25:09,190 --> 00:25:06,720
is it truly something

741
00:25:12,070 --> 00:25:09,200
of high strangeness unidentified ufo

742
00:25:13,750 --> 00:25:12,080
related um so that that was nice to hear

743
00:25:15,590 --> 00:25:13,760
and all of that has helped sean better

744
00:25:16,789 --> 00:25:15,600
understand his own memories and help

745
00:25:18,710 --> 00:25:16,799
guide him to kind of where he's at in

746
00:25:21,110 --> 00:25:18,720
terms of the conversation where sean

747
00:25:22,870 --> 00:25:21,120
will still say on on these conversations

748
00:25:24,950 --> 00:25:22,880
i still don't necessarily know what

749
00:25:27,110 --> 00:25:24,960
we're dealing with here

750
00:25:28,390 --> 00:25:27,120
but through his own experiences it's

751
00:25:30,950 --> 00:25:28,400
going to help them come to a place where

752
00:25:33,669 --> 00:25:30,960
they can guide and cannot understand it

753
00:25:35,909 --> 00:25:33,679
skyfort is of course brought up by jimmy

754
00:25:37,590 --> 00:25:35,919
church sean addresses the rumors around

755
00:25:39,909 --> 00:25:37,600
it and jimmy mentioned you know was this

756
00:25:42,789 --> 00:25:39,919
an agency company is it some you know

757
00:25:44,390 --> 00:25:42,799
elaborate setup and and sean you know

758
00:25:46,310 --> 00:25:44,400
quashes that pretty pretty well just

759
00:25:48,710 --> 00:25:46,320
like no of course not it was it was

760
00:25:50,070 --> 00:25:48,720
designed to help lou um

761
00:25:51,830 --> 00:25:50,080
go and listen to that you'll hear that

762
00:25:54,630 --> 00:25:51,840
explanation i would hope to have sean on

763
00:25:57,029 --> 00:25:54,640
anyway to discuss that with us himself

764
00:25:59,190 --> 00:25:57,039
it was arranged a few a while ago we had

765
00:26:01,590 --> 00:25:59,200
to reschedule so hopefully get sean back

766
00:26:03,430 --> 00:26:01,600
on asap to discuss that as well but it's

767
00:26:06,470 --> 00:26:03,440
a good conversation again folks please

768
00:26:08,390 --> 00:26:06,480
go check it out um i enjoyed it the

769
00:26:09,990 --> 00:26:08,400
jimmy church does some good interviews

770
00:26:11,669 --> 00:26:10,000
still there's a reason he's got as many

771
00:26:13,669 --> 00:26:11,679
subscribers as he has for as long as he

772
00:26:15,430 --> 00:26:13,679
has so this is definitely what i would

773
00:26:16,870 --> 00:26:15,440
recommend folks go and check out if

774
00:26:18,710 --> 00:26:16,880
you're looking for some stuff this this

775
00:26:21,029 --> 00:26:18,720
weekend to watch and listen to other

776
00:26:22,310 --> 00:26:21,039
than ourselves of course dan anything to

777
00:26:23,830 --> 00:26:22,320
add on that one

778
00:26:26,310 --> 00:26:23,840
i know that this is another one that's

779
00:26:29,110 --> 00:26:26,320
queued up for me uh you know i speak to

780
00:26:31,190 --> 00:26:29,120
sean almost every day so

781
00:26:32,630 --> 00:26:31,200
it's it's really lovely to hear him in a

782
00:26:33,990 --> 00:26:32,640
set in like jimmy church where he gets

783
00:26:35,909 --> 00:26:34,000
to speak to a bigger audience so

784
00:26:37,669 --> 00:26:35,919
tomorrow i plan to sit out in the

785
00:26:39,350 --> 00:26:37,679
sunshine and have a proper in-depth

786
00:26:40,549 --> 00:26:39,360
listen and message him along the way and

787
00:26:41,909 --> 00:26:40,559
ask what did you mean here and really

788
00:26:43,510 --> 00:26:41,919
drill down

789
00:26:45,510 --> 00:26:43,520
nice i'll let you take away the next

790
00:26:48,630 --> 00:26:45,520
part um on the you mentioned earlier on

791
00:26:49,990 --> 00:26:48,640
the bigelow aerospace dirts um we're

792
00:26:51,590 --> 00:26:50,000
going to cover these in the coming weeks

793
00:26:53,350 --> 00:26:51,600
in detail this is something that came up

794
00:26:54,710 --> 00:26:53,360
and you said to me straight away

795
00:26:58,230 --> 00:26:54,720
there's definitely something here for us

796
00:27:00,549 --> 00:26:58,240
to talk about in detail at length uh on

797
00:27:02,070 --> 00:27:00,559
its own show and it's on merit um but we

798
00:27:03,510 --> 00:27:02,080
just need the time to put that together

799
00:27:05,190 --> 00:27:03,520
folks and obviously do it justice for

800
00:27:06,870 --> 00:27:05,200
you as well because there's plenty of

801
00:27:08,390 --> 00:27:06,880
really interesting information and

802
00:27:11,669 --> 00:27:08,400
potential discussions within those

803
00:27:13,750 --> 00:27:11,679
documents but we would just have to

804
00:27:16,310 --> 00:27:13,760
batter it out and just talk nonsense

805
00:27:17,830 --> 00:27:16,320
about it just now so um yeah there's

806
00:27:19,590 --> 00:27:17,840
there's a lot to cover it's all very

807
00:27:21,590 --> 00:27:19,600
scientific and and what we're going to

808
00:27:23,590 --> 00:27:21,600
do is basically break them down into

809
00:27:25,350 --> 00:27:23,600
four groups do four-part show um just

810
00:27:27,110 --> 00:27:25,360
diving into a few of them summarizing

811
00:27:30,149 --> 00:27:27,120
the papers what use it might have been

812
00:27:31,669 --> 00:27:30,159
to a uap program um and who the author

813
00:27:33,110 --> 00:27:31,679
was basically i i think that would be

814
00:27:34,470 --> 00:27:33,120
really interesting

815
00:27:35,669 --> 00:27:34,480
and i haven't seen it done anywhere else

816
00:27:38,870 --> 00:27:35,679
so i think it would inform the

817
00:27:42,310 --> 00:27:38,880
conversation but in a nutshell um

818
00:27:45,669 --> 00:27:42,320
back when bigelow was involved with

819
00:27:48,310 --> 00:27:45,679
the dod and doing the awsap program

820
00:27:49,590 --> 00:27:48,320
they produced 38 defense intelligence

821
00:27:52,549 --> 00:27:49,600
reference documents so basically

822
00:27:53,830 --> 00:27:52,559
scientific reports that were paid for by

823
00:27:54,870 --> 00:27:53,840
the taxpayers

824
00:27:57,190 --> 00:27:54,880
and

825
00:27:58,310 --> 00:27:57,200
yeah they they would explore various

826
00:28:00,789 --> 00:27:58,320
different

827
00:28:02,630 --> 00:28:00,799
ideas based around exotic propulsion or

828
00:28:04,630 --> 00:28:02,640
energy technologies and various other

829
00:28:06,389 --> 00:28:04,640
things one paper in the pile was

830
00:28:07,990 --> 00:28:06,399
classified but there's an unclassified

831
00:28:09,909 --> 00:28:08,000
version included no one kind of knows

832
00:28:12,470 --> 00:28:09,919
really which is which but it might be

833
00:28:15,830 --> 00:28:12,480
the kick green biological effects and

834
00:28:17,750 --> 00:28:15,840
electromagnetic frequencies

835
00:28:19,830 --> 00:28:17,760
in in this list we we've only had about

836
00:28:22,549 --> 00:28:19,840
16 or 17 of them before but now we have

837
00:28:25,750 --> 00:28:22,559
37 so all of them pretty much yeah and

838
00:28:27,830 --> 00:28:25,760
and we can see that uap aren't really

839
00:28:29,430 --> 00:28:27,840
mentioned specifically throughout this

840
00:28:31,510 --> 00:28:29,440
this set of reports

841
00:28:34,070 --> 00:28:31,520
but reading between the lines a lot of

842
00:28:36,710 --> 00:28:34,080
this technology is it's all sci-fi stuff

843
00:28:37,510 --> 00:28:36,720
that very much is is a uap

844
00:28:39,590 --> 00:28:37,520
uh

845
00:28:42,630 --> 00:28:39,600
adjacent i'll say i mean there are

846
00:28:45,190 --> 00:28:42,640
papers on warp drives biomaterials

847
00:28:47,269 --> 00:28:45,200
advanced aerospace meta materials

848
00:28:48,070 --> 00:28:47,279
getting energy from the quantum vacuum

849
00:28:51,190 --> 00:28:48,080
um

850
00:28:52,950 --> 00:28:51,200
gravity wave communications and it it's

851
00:28:54,630 --> 00:28:52,960
just yeah there's a smorgasbord of

852
00:28:57,110 --> 00:28:54,640
things to talk about but the one that

853
00:28:59,510 --> 00:28:57,120
kind of tips their hand i think is

854
00:29:01,510 --> 00:28:59,520
there's a paper where

855
00:29:03,909 --> 00:29:01,520
it wouldn't be included if this was just

856
00:29:06,070 --> 00:29:03,919
about advanced aerospace

857
00:29:08,149 --> 00:29:06,080
the paper talks about the drake equation

858
00:29:09,510 --> 00:29:08,159
and the drake equation is essentially

859
00:29:11,110 --> 00:29:09,520
it's an argument used to estimate the

860
00:29:12,870 --> 00:29:11,120
number of

861
00:29:14,630 --> 00:29:12,880
extraterrestrial civilizations in our

862
00:29:16,070 --> 00:29:14,640
galaxy intelligence

863
00:29:17,990 --> 00:29:16,080
other than us

864
00:29:20,310 --> 00:29:18,000
the the equation breaks down i'm going

865
00:29:21,669 --> 00:29:20,320
to get a little nerdy here just because

866
00:29:23,909 --> 00:29:21,679
everyone hears it and people don't

867
00:29:26,789 --> 00:29:23,919
really get the details all the time but

868
00:29:28,710 --> 00:29:26,799
it is the number of civilizations

869
00:29:31,269 --> 00:29:28,720
in the milky way whose electromagnetic

870
00:29:32,950 --> 00:29:31,279
emissions would be detectable

871
00:29:34,950 --> 00:29:32,960
is equal to

872
00:29:37,669 --> 00:29:34,960
the rate of formation of stars suitable

873
00:29:38,549 --> 00:29:37,679
for the development of intelligent life

874
00:29:39,750 --> 00:29:38,559
times

875
00:29:42,070 --> 00:29:39,760
the number of those stars that would

876
00:29:43,750 --> 00:29:42,080
have a planetary system times the number

877
00:29:46,070 --> 00:29:43,760
of those planets per solar system with

878
00:29:48,310 --> 00:29:46,080
an environment suitable for life

879
00:29:49,909 --> 00:29:48,320
times the fraction of suitable planets

880
00:29:51,110 --> 00:29:49,919
on which life actually appears which

881
00:29:52,549 --> 00:29:51,120
might be like one percent of what we're

882
00:29:53,350 --> 00:29:52,559
talking about so far

883
00:29:54,789 --> 00:29:53,360
uh

884
00:29:56,470 --> 00:29:54,799
times the fraction of life bearing

885
00:29:59,029 --> 00:29:56,480
planets on which intelligent life

886
00:30:00,789 --> 00:29:59,039
actually emerges times the fraction of

887
00:30:02,950 --> 00:30:00,799
civilizations that develop a technology

888
00:30:05,430 --> 00:30:02,960
that produces detectable signs of their

889
00:30:07,750 --> 00:30:05,440
existence that we can pick up

890
00:30:10,630 --> 00:30:07,760
times the average length of time such

891
00:30:12,470 --> 00:30:10,640
civilizations would produce those signs

892
00:30:13,750 --> 00:30:12,480
so it's pretty nerdy but it kind of

893
00:30:14,789 --> 00:30:13,760
tracks right you can kind of follow it

894
00:30:16,549 --> 00:30:14,799
through and go okay yeah that makes

895
00:30:19,190 --> 00:30:16,559
sense even if we plug in one percent to

896
00:30:20,789 --> 00:30:19,200
this it shows that there should be the

897
00:30:22,470 --> 00:30:20,799
basically we are not alone and for some

898
00:30:24,070 --> 00:30:22,480
reason we're just not seeing the life

899
00:30:25,510 --> 00:30:24,080
out there

900
00:30:27,990 --> 00:30:25,520
why that would be included when they're

901
00:30:30,230 --> 00:30:28,000
talking about you know advanced planes

902
00:30:31,669 --> 00:30:30,240
is beyond me this is one of the signs

903
00:30:33,830 --> 00:30:31,679
that just tips their hand to say yeah or

904
00:30:35,990 --> 00:30:33,840
sap was looking at some very strange

905
00:30:37,830 --> 00:30:36,000
stuff and and definitely studying high

906
00:30:39,269 --> 00:30:37,840
strangeness and uap

907
00:30:41,350 --> 00:30:39,279
so you can see why we want to do that

908
00:30:42,870 --> 00:30:41,360
justice and and dig in a few episodes

909
00:30:45,350 --> 00:30:42,880
about it as well so that'll be coming up

910
00:30:47,029 --> 00:30:45,360
folks we look forward to that um

911
00:30:49,909 --> 00:30:47,039
another country getting involved in the

912
00:30:51,190 --> 00:30:49,919
ufo discussion properly and through

913
00:30:55,669 --> 00:30:51,200
ronnie verne

914
00:30:58,630 --> 00:30:55,679
link in the description on twitter and

915
00:31:00,789 --> 00:30:58,640
he reported that brazilians own congress

916
00:31:03,350 --> 00:31:00,799
approved a request by multiple senators

917
00:31:05,909 --> 00:31:03,360
back in mid-march for a special session

918
00:31:08,149 --> 00:31:05,919
of discussion about uap it's due to take

919
00:31:10,710 --> 00:31:08,159
place near the 75th anniversary of world

920
00:31:12,470 --> 00:31:10,720
ufo day which can be the 24th or june or

921
00:31:15,430 --> 00:31:12,480
second of july depending on the

922
00:31:16,950 --> 00:31:15,440
celebration so late june early july i

923
00:31:18,230 --> 00:31:16,960
think that's one to keep an eye on folks

924
00:31:21,110 --> 00:31:18,240
south american countries have a

925
00:31:23,590 --> 00:31:21,120
wonderful perspective on ufos it can be

926
00:31:27,750 --> 00:31:23,600
very different to what we experience in

927
00:31:32,070 --> 00:31:30,149
riddled is the word i would use

928
00:31:34,870 --> 00:31:32,080
riddled with ufos dan came back riddled

929
00:31:35,590 --> 00:31:34,880
with ufos from columbia um

930
00:31:37,029 --> 00:31:35,600
so

931
00:31:38,310 --> 00:31:37,039
i think in terms of the conversation

932
00:31:39,830 --> 00:31:38,320
you're going to see a little bit of that

933
00:31:42,389 --> 00:31:39,840
from a colombian point of view and

934
00:31:44,630 --> 00:31:42,399
phenomenology with dan ashfini and co

935
00:31:46,549 --> 00:31:44,640
and all those all those folks early may

936
00:31:48,789 --> 00:31:46,559
but it's great to see brazil getting

937
00:31:50,149 --> 00:31:48,799
involved in the conversation because it

938
00:31:52,230 --> 00:31:50,159
would be good to see

939
00:31:54,870 --> 00:31:52,240
if something more could come from that

940
00:31:57,509 --> 00:31:54,880
you know public hearing if they end up

941
00:31:59,350 --> 00:31:57,519
setting up their own office or task

942
00:32:02,549 --> 00:31:59,360
force and there's communication between

943
00:32:04,149 --> 00:32:02,559
the us office and brazil and again we

944
00:32:05,990 --> 00:32:04,159
always say if the uk would get involved

945
00:32:07,750 --> 00:32:06,000
and do something like that as well it

946
00:32:10,230 --> 00:32:07,760
just seems a million miles away for us

947
00:32:12,070 --> 00:32:10,240
and in the uk that could happen but look

948
00:32:13,830 --> 00:32:12,080
at brazil paving the way i think there

949
00:32:14,710 --> 00:32:13,840
was at least seven senators i saw named

950
00:32:16,630 --> 00:32:14,720
i would have butchered the

951
00:32:18,230 --> 00:32:16,640
pronunciations which is why i didn't put

952
00:32:20,149 --> 00:32:18,240
all their names in there but if you

953
00:32:22,710 --> 00:32:20,159
follow at ronnie vernet at

954
00:32:24,710 --> 00:32:22,720
r-o-n-y-v-e-r-n-e-t

955
00:32:26,389 --> 00:32:24,720
on twitter you'll see the threads he's

956
00:32:28,549 --> 00:32:26,399
done some wonderful work on that and

957
00:32:30,230 --> 00:32:28,559
coming up soon uh ronnie will hopefully

958
00:32:31,750 --> 00:32:30,240
be on the podcast to talk about that

959
00:32:33,990 --> 00:32:31,760
when he's when he's ready and got all

960
00:32:35,509 --> 00:32:34,000
the information he requires so um top

961
00:32:37,990 --> 00:32:35,519
work being done there definitely an

962
00:32:39,509 --> 00:32:38,000
account worth following um

963
00:32:41,350 --> 00:32:39,519
and again you can see the progress is

964
00:32:42,789 --> 00:32:41,360
being made in the subject folks outside

965
00:32:44,789 --> 00:32:42,799
of the the bubbles we can all kind of

966
00:32:47,750 --> 00:32:44,799
live in and we touched on this one

967
00:32:49,430 --> 00:32:47,760
earlier classified briefing a classified

968
00:32:51,430 --> 00:32:49,440
update is due the first thing today

969
00:32:53,430 --> 00:32:51,440
update by the 27th of march it may or

970
00:32:55,029 --> 00:32:53,440
may not have happened already and

971
00:32:56,470 --> 00:32:55,039
there's no reason we should see anything

972
00:32:58,789 --> 00:32:56,480
folks as we mentioned before

973
00:33:01,110 --> 00:32:58,799
unfortunately the usual suspects will of

974
00:33:04,310 --> 00:33:01,120
course be involved in the foyer process

975
00:33:05,350 --> 00:33:04,320
again other folks should do the same um

976
00:33:06,870 --> 00:33:05,360
dan

977
00:33:09,110 --> 00:33:06,880
what i would hope they'll be sort of

978
00:33:11,830 --> 00:33:09,120
touched on this is whatever comes

979
00:33:14,470 --> 00:33:11,840
out in the background could lead the

980
00:33:16,789 --> 00:33:14,480
direction of what's going to happen next

981
00:33:19,830 --> 00:33:16,799
in terms of the working offices as well

982
00:33:22,070 --> 00:33:19,840
aoi msge whatever might be happening

983
00:33:23,830 --> 00:33:22,080
these reports could certainly help

984
00:33:25,909 --> 00:33:23,840
push forward okay we're going to go with

985
00:33:28,149 --> 00:33:25,919
this direction we're going to look into

986
00:33:29,909 --> 00:33:28,159
this if this is happening right now for

987
00:33:31,590 --> 00:33:29,919
example say they find and i'm just going

988
00:33:33,669 --> 00:33:31,600
to spitball here i've not even noted

989
00:33:35,430 --> 00:33:33,679
this down but will they find out in the

990
00:33:37,909 --> 00:33:35,440
last couple of weeks especially over the

991
00:33:39,430 --> 00:33:37,919
course of february there have been an

992
00:33:41,590 --> 00:33:39,440
uptick in

993
00:33:44,950 --> 00:33:41,600
tic tac sightings off the coast of san

994
00:33:47,110 --> 00:33:44,960
diego with different navy groups maybe

995
00:33:48,710 --> 00:33:47,120
that encourages them to do more quicker

996
00:33:49,830 --> 00:33:48,720
it might help in terms of funding it

997
00:33:51,590 --> 00:33:49,840
might help them

998
00:33:54,070 --> 00:33:51,600
point the money they may have to spend

999
00:33:55,350 --> 00:33:54,080
in that direction who knows but it's

1000
00:33:57,830 --> 00:33:55,360
certainly going to have some form of

1001
00:33:59,430 --> 00:33:57,840
impact isn't it yeah absolutely one of

1002
00:34:00,950 --> 00:33:59,440
the big things from the the bills for me

1003
00:34:03,669 --> 00:34:00,960
the past were that they get to name and

1004
00:34:05,350 --> 00:34:03,679
shame in these briefings and reports

1005
00:34:06,870 --> 00:34:05,360
non-cooperative organizations so if the

1006
00:34:08,629 --> 00:34:06,880
airport air force doesn't stop playing

1007
00:34:09,990 --> 00:34:08,639
ball there's actually a legal framework

1008
00:34:11,909 --> 00:34:10,000
that they can pressure them through now

1009
00:34:13,990 --> 00:34:11,919
and you know it's not likely that people

1010
00:34:15,510 --> 00:34:14,000
go to jail but they those threats exist

1011
00:34:16,950 --> 00:34:15,520
now because the law has been passed

1012
00:34:18,310 --> 00:34:16,960
that's what it is we haven't had this

1013
00:34:20,470 --> 00:34:18,320
before it's amazing it's going to have

1014
00:34:22,069 --> 00:34:20,480
such a big impact we we get a whole

1015
00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:22,079
bunch of reports i'm just going to put

1016
00:34:25,430 --> 00:34:24,240
key dates here so you've already touched

1017
00:34:27,030 --> 00:34:25,440
on the one that's coming up the briefing

1018
00:34:30,069 --> 00:34:27,040
on the 27th or around the end of this

1019
00:34:31,750 --> 00:34:30,079
month then in june um we're going to

1020
00:34:33,510 --> 00:34:31,760
have the first classified quarterly

1021
00:34:35,270 --> 00:34:33,520
report that's based on the legislation

1022
00:34:38,790 --> 00:34:35,280
that's just passed that required four

1023
00:34:41,270 --> 00:34:38,800
reports a year all classified um we'll

1024
00:34:44,069 --> 00:34:41,280
have another one of those in september

1025
00:34:47,109 --> 00:34:44,079
then also in september we'll have a

1026
00:34:48,629 --> 00:34:47,119
classified semi-semi-annual briefing for

1027
00:34:51,829 --> 00:34:48,639
the stuff that passed over christmas so

1028
00:34:55,270 --> 00:34:51,839
that's the the march thing um as well

1029
00:34:56,629 --> 00:34:55,280
then 31st of october we've got the

1030
00:34:57,589 --> 00:34:56,639
first

1031
00:34:58,710 --> 00:34:57,599
of

1032
00:35:00,870 --> 00:34:58,720
four because that's how long this

1033
00:35:03,349 --> 00:35:00,880
program is going to last till 2026. the

1034
00:35:05,829 --> 00:35:03,359
first of four unclassified reports that

1035
00:35:08,069 --> 00:35:05,839
may include a classified annex um and

1036
00:35:09,829 --> 00:35:08,079
that's what we'll actually see uh as the

1037
00:35:11,670 --> 00:35:09,839
public is our next report then in

1038
00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:11,680
december we'll get a third classified

1039
00:35:15,349 --> 00:35:13,920
coursely report and then the end of that

1040
00:35:17,829 --> 00:35:15,359
quarter which you know will bump up

1041
00:35:20,950 --> 00:35:17,839
against march again probably um

1042
00:35:22,710 --> 00:35:20,960
we'll get our last report from the iaa

1043
00:35:24,230 --> 00:35:22,720
and then those six states will kind of

1044
00:35:25,829 --> 00:35:24,240
pretty much cycle out year over year for

1045
00:35:26,870 --> 00:35:25,839
the next four years now which is pretty

1046
00:35:28,870 --> 00:35:26,880
exciting

1047
00:35:31,109 --> 00:35:28,880
we we were stoked to get one preliminary

1048
00:35:33,589 --> 00:35:31,119
report now now we're getting six updates

1049
00:35:35,030 --> 00:35:33,599
a year to the right people and one of

1050
00:35:36,790 --> 00:35:35,040
those is for us

1051
00:35:38,150 --> 00:35:36,800
yeah i've got a good feeling from april

1052
00:35:39,270 --> 00:35:38,160
and then from the next couple of days

1053
00:35:41,190 --> 00:35:39,280
we're going to start hearing some more

1054
00:35:43,829 --> 00:35:41,200
information coming out i i would like to

1055
00:35:45,349 --> 00:35:43,839
think this is the start of the the end

1056
00:35:46,710 --> 00:35:45,359
of that down period everyone's talked

1057
00:35:48,150 --> 00:35:46,720
about and with the more information

1058
00:35:50,870 --> 00:35:48,160
coming out the more discussion or

1059
00:35:52,310 --> 00:35:50,880
valuable discussion will be online and

1060
00:35:55,190 --> 00:35:52,320
the more those big names and players

1061
00:35:57,349 --> 00:35:55,200
will have more to talk about um so yeah

1062
00:35:59,030 --> 00:35:57,359
and imagine that amongst all this we get

1063
00:36:01,829 --> 00:35:59,040
project galileo taking a picture of a

1064
00:36:03,109 --> 00:36:01,839
uap or uapx showing people that actually

1065
00:36:05,030 --> 00:36:03,119
you can coax these things out of the

1066
00:36:07,109 --> 00:36:05,040
water with decent frequency in the right

1067
00:36:09,190 --> 00:36:07,119
places it it's going to change the game

1068
00:36:10,950 --> 00:36:09,200
for what is including these reports and

1069
00:36:12,069 --> 00:36:10,960
what the officials want to know

1070
00:36:13,910 --> 00:36:12,079
definitely and that's a nice little

1071
00:36:15,910 --> 00:36:13,920
segue into one of the last points um if

1072
00:36:17,190 --> 00:36:15,920
you hold on folks for the last part i'll

1073
00:36:18,630 --> 00:36:17,200
be discussing and telling you some of

1074
00:36:20,630 --> 00:36:18,640
the guests coming up i've booked in some

1075
00:36:22,550 --> 00:36:20,640
names finally and some good ones in

1076
00:36:23,829 --> 00:36:22,560
there too they're all good ones um but

1077
00:36:25,270 --> 00:36:23,839
if you're looking for something else to

1078
00:36:27,030 --> 00:36:25,280
watch this weekend and you've watched

1079
00:36:30,230 --> 00:36:27,040
the the latest speed of interviews from

1080
00:36:32,470 --> 00:36:30,240
leila zondo sean cahill and others then

1081
00:36:35,109 --> 00:36:32,480
you have the scu

1082
00:36:38,270 --> 00:36:35,119
um panel on the 27th of march between

1083
00:36:40,150 --> 00:36:38,280
seven and nine pm central time that's at

1084
00:36:42,710 --> 00:36:40,160
explorescu.org i'll have the link in the

1085
00:36:44,950 --> 00:36:42,720
description it's a round table on uap

1086
00:36:46,230 --> 00:36:44,960
enigma versus stigma and then the

1087
00:36:48,630 --> 00:36:46,240
following day on the monday i'm

1088
00:36:51,030 --> 00:36:48,640
interviewing rich hoffman of scu so any

1089
00:36:53,670 --> 00:36:51,040
questions for rich get those over at ufo

1090
00:36:55,430 --> 00:36:53,680
uap am

1091
00:36:57,670 --> 00:36:55,440
got a fascinating background as well so

1092
00:36:59,589 --> 00:36:57,680
that that's one they look forward to um

1093
00:37:02,150 --> 00:36:59,599
i'll also give a shout out to nathan

1094
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from calling all beings away soul if you

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00:37:06,310 --> 00:37:03,920
speak to nathan online he's really good

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and he's on our discord all the time um

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00:37:11,270 --> 00:37:08,720
the rice university lectures are now

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00:37:12,950 --> 00:37:11,280
available online which include one from

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jacques valley as well so definitely

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00:37:15,510 --> 00:37:14,079
worth checking those out if you're

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00:37:17,470 --> 00:37:15,520
looking for some stuff to produce

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00:37:18,870 --> 00:37:17,480
through it's at

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00:37:20,710 --> 00:37:18,880
impossiblearchives.race.edu forward

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00:37:22,230 --> 00:37:20,720
slash blah blah you're not going to

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00:37:24,150 --> 00:37:22,240
remember that the link will be in the

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00:37:24,870 --> 00:37:24,160
description folks more for you to check

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00:37:27,349 --> 00:37:24,880
out

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00:37:30,069 --> 00:37:27,359
um finally some upcoming guests so i've

1109
00:37:32,710 --> 00:37:30,079
just spoken to jazz show yesterday as we

1110
00:37:34,790 --> 00:37:32,720
record this that'll be out on patreon

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00:37:35,990 --> 00:37:34,800
spotify premium all that good stuff and

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00:37:38,310 --> 00:37:36,000
the next

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today basically on friday the 25th of

1114
00:37:42,069 --> 00:37:39,839
march it was a really interesting

1115
00:37:43,829 --> 00:37:42,079
conversation great to speak to jazz uh a

1116
00:37:46,230 --> 00:37:43,839
seasoned journalist with his you know

1117
00:37:48,550 --> 00:37:46,240
military background and we had a really

1118
00:37:50,150 --> 00:37:48,560
good kind of back and forward jazz also

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00:37:52,230 --> 00:37:50,160
opened up and shared in a lot of detail

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00:37:53,990 --> 00:37:52,240
has five experiences that he had with

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00:37:55,030 --> 00:37:54,000
between him and his wife and the last

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00:37:56,550 --> 00:37:55,040
couple of years that were really

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00:37:58,630 --> 00:37:56,560
interesting to hear a real mix of

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00:38:00,390 --> 00:37:58,640
experiences in there as well and so

1125
00:38:02,390 --> 00:38:00,400
that'll be available very soon and it'll

1126
00:38:04,950 --> 00:38:02,400
be on monday for everyone on the free

1127
00:38:06,950 --> 00:38:04,960
feeds then i've got rich hoffman

1128
00:38:08,550 --> 00:38:06,960
of scu and he's got a fantastic

1129
00:38:10,470 --> 00:38:08,560
scientific background as well an

1130
00:38:11,750 --> 00:38:10,480
engineering background

1131
00:38:12,790 --> 00:38:11,760
get in touch if you get any questions

1132
00:38:14,870 --> 00:38:12,800
for rich

1133
00:38:17,030 --> 00:38:14,880
then i've got chris rutkowski his

1134
00:38:18,870 --> 00:38:17,040
interview is being recorded before rich

1135
00:38:20,790 --> 00:38:18,880
but will go after

1136
00:38:23,270 --> 00:38:20,800
if you remember when i spoke to daniel

1137
00:38:25,270 --> 00:38:23,280
otis uh chris rutkowski has been

1138
00:38:27,589 --> 00:38:25,280
involved in the research in canadian

1139
00:38:29,589 --> 00:38:27,599
ufos for nearly 20 years and he's got a

1140
00:38:31,670 --> 00:38:29,599
book coming out in the coming months on

1141
00:38:32,870 --> 00:38:31,680
that too so if you're canadian

1142
00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:32,880
particularly you might have a real

1143
00:38:37,270 --> 00:38:34,800
interest in that one chris is the go-to

1144
00:38:39,190 --> 00:38:37,280
guy he's got a lot of official documents

1145
00:38:40,550 --> 00:38:39,200
from the government as well in terms of

1146
00:38:43,030 --> 00:38:40,560
canadian ufos we're really looking

1147
00:38:44,870 --> 00:38:43,040
forward to that conversation um then

1148
00:38:46,150 --> 00:38:44,880
into the month i've got avi loeb who's

1149
00:38:48,069 --> 00:38:46,160
coming on to give us an update on the

1150
00:38:49,670 --> 00:38:48,079
galileo project i think it might be a

1151
00:38:51,670 --> 00:38:49,680
good time to get some questions in for

1152
00:38:53,510 --> 00:38:51,680
avi loeb looking forward to that one

1153
00:38:55,510 --> 00:38:53,520
it's been a while since we spoke to him

1154
00:38:58,950 --> 00:38:55,520
luella zondo is scheduled in for the

1155
00:39:01,430 --> 00:38:58,960
23rd of april so again folks i have a

1156
00:39:03,270 --> 00:39:01,440
ton of questions already for lou feel

1157
00:39:04,870 --> 00:39:03,280
free to send over any more but we'll

1158
00:39:07,670 --> 00:39:04,880
we'll do our best to get through what we

1159
00:39:09,349 --> 00:39:07,680
can with lou on that interview and then

1160
00:39:11,589 --> 00:39:09,359
one other interview for this month will

1161
00:39:13,750 --> 00:39:11,599
be a remote viewer from the uk who has

1162
00:39:16,150 --> 00:39:13,760
an interest and historical involvement

1163
00:39:17,349 --> 00:39:16,160
in ufos and remote viewing as well so

1164
00:39:19,430 --> 00:39:17,359
i'm really looking forward to that i'll

1165
00:39:21,270 --> 00:39:19,440
wait till i've got a date locked in and

1166
00:39:23,670 --> 00:39:21,280
which hopefully will be today to have

1167
00:39:25,990 --> 00:39:23,680
that conversation with everyone but

1168
00:39:28,550 --> 00:39:26,000
that's pretty much what's coming up uh

1169
00:39:30,470 --> 00:39:28,560
dan anything anymore for any more from

1170
00:39:31,990 --> 00:39:30,480
you no i think that's everything the

1171
00:39:33,670 --> 00:39:32,000
james webb hasn't exploded it's all

1172
00:39:36,310 --> 00:39:33,680
going well that's the most update you

1173
00:39:37,510 --> 00:39:36,320
need it's yeah awesome well thank you

1174
00:39:39,990 --> 00:39:37,520
very much folks and if you've made it

1175
00:39:42,150 --> 00:39:40,000
this far just a reminder again if you

1176
00:39:43,829 --> 00:39:42,160
are on youtube can you go and subscribe

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00:39:45,670 --> 00:39:43,839
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1178
00:39:47,910 --> 00:39:45,680
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1179
00:39:50,630 --> 00:39:47,920
same with you if you're on apple or

1180
00:39:52,390 --> 00:39:50,640
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1181
00:39:54,390 --> 00:39:52,400
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1182
00:39:55,589 --> 00:39:54,400
review as well it's always greatly

1183
00:39:57,270 --> 00:39:55,599
greatly appreciated it makes a

1184
00:39:59,270 --> 00:39:57,280
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1185
00:40:01,190 --> 00:39:59,280
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1186
00:40:02,630 --> 00:40:01,200
we're a small podcast and it's difficult

1187
00:40:04,470 --> 00:40:02,640
and those signs charts with all those

1188
00:40:06,390 --> 00:40:04,480
celebrities to to kind of get any

1189
00:40:08,870 --> 00:40:06,400
traction and we managed to do it quite

1190
00:40:11,109 --> 00:40:08,880
often so those reviews and the

1191
00:40:12,870 --> 00:40:11,119
interaction on those means a lot and

1192
00:40:15,030 --> 00:40:12,880
makes a massive difference as has the

1193
00:40:16,710 --> 00:40:15,040
youtube channel with so many of you on

1194
00:40:18,230 --> 00:40:16,720
youtube watching and coming over from

1195
00:40:19,990 --> 00:40:18,240
toy and all that kind of stuff as well

1196
00:40:21,670 --> 00:40:20,000
so yeah it means a lot it's it's very

1197
00:40:23,750 --> 00:40:21,680
much appreciated it all really helps in

1198
00:40:24,470 --> 00:40:23,760
terms of when we reach out to guests as

1199
00:40:26,470 --> 00:40:24,480
well

1200
00:40:28,950 --> 00:40:26,480
you know if we maybe for a day overtake

1201
00:40:30,470 --> 00:40:28,960
brian cox's podcast we get to go oh hey

1202
00:40:32,470 --> 00:40:30,480
hi you might have seen us in the chats

1203
00:40:34,230 --> 00:40:32,480
you know and it's just an easier way to

1204
00:40:36,230 --> 00:40:34,240
connect so yeah it all really helps in

1205
00:40:39,349 --> 00:40:36,240
ways that just you know people people

1206
00:40:41,190 --> 00:40:39,359
aren't even aware of 100 folks exciting

1207
00:40:42,710 --> 00:40:41,200
times ahead thanks stan for joining me

1208
00:40:44,150 --> 00:40:42,720
been a pleasure thank you there was a

1209
00:40:46,069 --> 00:40:44,160
lot to go through but uh we got there

1210
00:40:47,589 --> 00:40:46,079
good job anyways enjoy your weekends

1211
00:40:48,870 --> 00:40:47,599
folks and let us know if you listen to

1212
00:40:49,990 --> 00:40:48,880
any of those interviews and what your

1213
00:40:52,069 --> 00:40:50,000
thoughts were

1214
00:40:54,069 --> 00:40:52,079
that is all for this week's show thank

1215
00:40:56,069 --> 00:40:54,079
you very much for listening please

1216
00:40:58,710 --> 00:40:56,079
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1217
00:41:01,030 --> 00:40:58,720
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00:41:02,950 --> 00:41:01,040
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1219
00:41:05,109 --> 00:41:02,960
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00:41:06,630 --> 00:41:05,119
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00:41:09,109 --> 00:41:06,640
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00:41:11,829 --> 00:41:09,119
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00:41:14,069 --> 00:41:11,839
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1224
00:41:16,870 --> 00:41:14,079
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1225
00:41:20,550 --> 00:41:16,880
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1226
00:41:22,550 --> 00:41:20,560
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1227
00:41:25,300 --> 00:41:22,560
folks as always keep looking up you

1228
00:41:32,870 --> 00:41:25,310
never know what you might see

1229
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:46,230
it

1230
00:41:46,240 --> 00:41:52,360
i don't think he expected

1231
00:41:52,370 --> 00:42:01,349
[Music]

1232
00:42:22,069 --> 00:42:02,790
i can't imagine how it could have been

1233
00:42:31,420 --> 00:42:23,430
there was something on my head and

1234
00:42:45,109 --> 00:42:40,670
[Music]

1235
00:42:51,890 --> 00:42:45,119
if you really want to know who i think

1236
00:43:22,870 --> 00:43:00,470
[Music]

1237
00:43:30,870 --> 00:43:24,930
what's that

1238
00:43:32,790 --> 00:43:30,880
[Music]

1239
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:32,800
it wasn't a tic tac and not quite a